Jennifer, who is in the middle or a contentious divorce with her husband of more than 20 years, Jamie, says she starting cutting herself earlier this year. “I was cutting myself to relieve the pain,” says the mother of two. “I was afraid that I might die. I was afraid of leaving the kids alone without a mom.” But she says she continued to cut herself.

Jennifer says the first day she cut herself, Jamie saw her holding a knife and told her how people do it when they want to commit suicide. “He told me to go kill myself, basically,” Jennifer says.

Jennifer recalls one time when she was cutting, she went out to her car so the kids wouldn’t see her and called Jamie for help. After two hours of waiting for him, she says he never showed up or called anyone to come help her. “The more I waited, the worse it got,” she says. “I know it wasn’t the best thing to do.”

“You’re sitting in the car, and you’re lifting your hair up, and putting a knife back there and cutting yourself,” Dr. Phil says to her in the video above. “Why are you doing this?”

“The site of the blood relieves it when you’re crying,” she says. “I think I started it because, ‘I’ll show him.’ He’s telling me, ‘Go and cut yourself.’ So, I did.”

On his show Thursday, Dr. Phil helps the couple come to a resolution. Click here to see where you can watch.

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